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to go. and the good thing with him, mayor pete is, he's on an upward trajectory, he's doing well. i think he's doing well to continue to go out there, make his case individually to the people. he has a very good demeanor, he has an ability to connect. he is someone that we need to keep an eye on with regard to moving forward, because he has an inspirational story to tell people. and if he continues to do as he's doing now, he -- you. >> see him as a serious threat to the sitting president? >> i absolutely do. i think, look, these presidential races, i've been in the last three presidential cycles, they're marathons, not sprints. it's a tortoise in this race and he has a good outlook on this presidential race. >> alexander rojas, hilary rosen, thanks appreciate it.
hello everyone, thanks for being with me. i'm fed erika whitfield, for the first time in years tiger has won the masters. it's the 15th major victory of his career. putting in three behind -- you see him there. embraced by his kids. congratulations are pouring in from all over, not just on the greens, but social media as well. president obama tweeting, congratulations tiger, after all the highs and lows, a testament to excellence, grit and determination. president trump also praising woods calling him a truly great champion. >> don rudell is in augusta for us. what an incredible culmination
of a decade long comeback, and what a sweet victory seeing him with his kids embracing him like that. and you could feel it, the emotions from him. >> yeah, absolutely if you've been following tiger woods career and his journey, and his personal joirnny over the last decade. it was hard not to get teary eyed watching the way he reacted on the green. an incredible sporting moment and one that we certainly did not take for granted. we have discussed the idea of what it might mean. now we're having to put it into words, because he's actually done it. we're going to do that for you in the next couple minutes. first, let's get the perspective of those who had a ringside seat. the players he beat.
>> it's incredible. i think we all knew it was coming. people want to see it again. he wanted to do it again, and he was able to get the job done. what he's done for the game of golf and for a lot of players, i think is -- you can't really measure. >> we don't want that locker room to grow, so we want a defending champ, we want someone who's won before and for the game of golf, stories tomorrow and all the things that people say. >> as can you see. you were calling the tournament today on the radio, we've talked many times about what this moment might mean if it happened. but it was a big if. now that it has happened and you've seen it with your own eyes, where does it rank in the pan thea of sports moments. >> it's a great question. people will point to the 1986
masters. >> it was longer than that for tiger, he's 43 years old. this was '86 all over again. questions about his game, his personality. tiger told me two years ago, he wasn't sure he was going to play golf again. >> how was he able to do it, this field didn't hand it to him. this was arguably one of the toughest majors. the previous 14 majors, he was always leading or co leading after three rounds, he's never had to come from behind until now. >> the pedigree of those that are at the top of the leaderboard, everyone in the top five had a major championship. that's going to be the greatest takeaway, the knock tiger's career. you heard bubba watson we didn't want to expand the champion's
locker room. you didn't have to. and tiger took everybody's best punch. his best punch still pretty good, as it turns out. >> we were fortunate to be here to see it. >> fantastic, don rudell. it was an extraordinary moment for us to be watching. even in replay, if you didn't get a chance to see it live. andy scholes is always in the midst of everything, always has a front row view, something tells me andy scholes on the phone with us now. in the pressroom getting to hear firsthand how tiger woods was replaying in his mind what this means to him? >> i tell you what, you couldn't wipe the big smile off his face the entire time he was talking to the media. he's so happy, it feels like an entire weight has been lifted off his shoulders, he's got 11
years, nearly 4,000 days since he last won a major, you know, many didn't think it would ever happen again. look at tiger now, he's concurred that now, be and is back on top he was asked, does he think that he's physically and mentally able to go out there and win majors? yeah. i just did it. and i tell you what -- >> did i loose you, andy? >> we're going to have to try to reconnect. we're looking at that moment. a tape, that victory, what a sweet victory it was, tiger woods being greeted by his kids. just as he made that final winning put and then, of course, all the other guys who have made their own history there in augusta with the green masters jackets, congratulating him,
what an extraordinary moment, and then, of course, there, that's always the great moment too, ssht it? with the jacket going on. hey, also on the phone with us, let's hope this phone connection works out. usa today sports columnist christine brennen with me. christine, what was this moment like for you as you watched it? what a roller coaster ride tiger woods has been on particularly in the last 10 years. >> absolutely. i mean, many of us thought this day would never come. tiger thought this day may never come. 43, he's balding, it takes him a long time to get prepared in the morning, because he can't practice the way he used to. we know the personal scandal from almost 10 years ago, we know about the back surgery, including spinal fusion a couple years ago. 18 months ago he said he could not get off the sofa to watch his kids play soccer. this is one of those great comeback stories for the ages. and no one really saw it coming.
even tiger, i asked him a few days ago, he was surprised he hadn't won a major in almost 11 years and he wasn't sure when the next one would come. >> didn't you see kind of a different expression and demeanor in tiger woods, particularly today? he always exudes confidence, any time he's wearing that red shirt in a tournament. there was something different how focused, laser focused he seemed to be particularly when he was just two behind the leader, one behind the leader, and then when he was tied, he seemed to have the same kind of demeanor. >> you're absolutely right. he called it plotting. he was plotting around the golf course, which is a word that we.
>> we're having a terrible time with the connections. we have terrible storms in the area. i'm joined by hines ward right here with me. so talk to me, from a champion's point of view, watching another kmamp on, who has been down who's had this roller coaster ride, who knows what it is to be on top, he's been at the depths and to watch him today. what were your impressions. >> to me it's got to be one of the greatest comebacks in sports history. the masters is like the super bowl in the golf world. all the elite athletes come out, you saw michael phelps on 16 cheering for him. it brings out everyone. for tiger to get back to the top to me, is the greatest comeback in sports history.
>> it really is extraordinary, for those christine talked to him a few days ago. and don rudell, said he talked to him a couple months ago, and he certainly didn't appear outwardly to believe that he would be reaching this kind of pinnacle again. was that perhaps just modesty, trying to keep it together and stay focused? deep down inside a champion wants to believe -- >> no question about it. >> you were always a champion. >> you saw him close last season, he was on the cusp of winning, i think to finally put it all together, i had the opportunity, i went to the masters on thursday, i followed tiger around the hole. you talk about laser focus. but it was a circus show out there. i mean, the crowd -- imagine -- >> how do you not be distracted? >> exactly. >> people know when to be quiet, but at the same time. >> he has that everywhere he goes, everhole, to be dialed in and laser focused on each and every shot. that's what makes this win
special for me, because i saw it firsthand then that -- to be able to block out the distractions. it's like the super bowl, when you're looking at, you see the cameras, the celebs, to be able to focus and dial in, to make the incredible shots tiger made, as a father himself, seeing him reach the top and sharing it with his kids. >> that was a tear jerker moment. >> you know what, the galleries have been huge forever, even since he was at stanford. people were watching him, particularly when he became a pro, he helped change the fascination with the sport. and to see that the galleries are even bigger now with this comeback. >> especially -- to overcome that, and the injuries -- everybody's rooting for him, what's tiger doing?
it was just a magical moment, i was cheering for him at home, and drove down here just so i could talk about it. >> i'm so glad you're here to talk about your experience there on thursday, and then, from one champion, looking at another champion, and seeing all this unfold. it's so inspiring no matter what. >> i have an opportunity, when he and phil mickelson went head to head, to meet him in person, i was rattled and stuff. tiger woods, it's amazing because i'm happy for the younger generation to get a chance to see tiger woods back on top putting on the green coat, that's what it's all about. now, when i say tiger woods was the man my son could say, i see why. >> hines ward, thank you so much. i'm glad you're able to be at the table with me. appreciate it. we'll be up next, the white house with a stinging attack on democrats trying to look at president trump's tax returns.
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women are smart enough to look through the thousands of pages that i would assume that president trump's taxes will be. my guest is most of them don't do their own taxes, and i certainly don't trust them to look through the decades of success the president has. and determine anything. >> cnn's sarah westwood joining us now from the white house with more on this new line of attacks from the white house, sarah. >> the white house has from the outset been describing this as an overreach. this is a new line of attack from white house press secretary sarah sanders today, but really the heart of this debate is whether democrats do have the authority to be the irs for six years of the president's tax returns. richard neil argued in that letter, setting up the new deadline for the release of the president's taxes, any suggestions this committee doesn't have the authority are without merit.
the president's team has been arguing there is no legal basis for the committee to be makings these requests, they have been claiming the requests are partisan in nature, there's no oversight reason, the democrats would need those tax returns, obviously, the differently. they think they're on solid acting white house chief of staff said last week, the democrats would never see the president's tax return. a month or years long battle for these tax returns. we could see this heat up. that's the new deadline the chairman has set up for the response. >> with me now, ron brown's team, good to see you all. >> ron, you first, what do you make of sarah sanders argument
that democrats in congress are simply not smart enough to review the thousandses of pages of tax returns from trump. >> it's like many of the arguments on many subjects from the white house. it's chum in the water for their base. it's worth going back. first, democrats are trying to do is ultimately to require the president to conform to a norm that every other president has adhered to, which is releasing his tax returns, they're not asking him to do anything unusual. they're asking him to stop doing something unusual. even more fundamentally, the 1924 law, the revenue act under which they are basing this question is pretty una.mbiguouu. it's worth remembering that law was passed by a republican controlled congress under a republican president, specifically because they wanted to investigate -- they wanted to have access to the information,
to determine whether cabinet officers were making decisions based on the public interests or their own financial interests. there's a strong precedent here, but like many things i think we're going to see, ultimately, this seems destined to go to the supreme court and john roberts will probably decide what the america public and the congress sees. >> this president has been all about bucking the system, why should this be any different. he's not going to do what the norms have been. >> the only difference this time, the democrats control the house, let me point out a few things. there is a switching explanation as to why he won't release it, today's latest that no one will understand it, is not -- seriously, even if an individual doesn't understand their taxes, there are experts on weighs and means who write these complex laws that create these complex returns that are hundreds of
pages long, and in are members of congress themselves who are wealthy and have these complex returns. let's not boil their resources. >> her argument is a side show to the main thing. i think reporters need to ask trump the next time they're there, they're asking -- they need to ask a better question to move his ball over. i can't release returns because they're under audit. and that question that needs to be asked is, could you please release the return from the last year that an audit was complete? >> right, and 2018. tomorrow is tax day, so -- >> and so you won't get that one, clearly. >> what's going to be the argument for 2018. >> at least you go by what he's saying, when is the last year an audit was complete, let's have that one, even if it's 10 or 15 years ago. when is the last one done. >> i also want to make clear that the portion of the internal
revenue code that house democrats are using to request those tax returns, actually to demand the tax returns. they have the right to appoint examiners and other experts to look at those returns. so that area of the law specifically says it's not the legislators themselves who have to parse all of this technical information. they have access to experts and those experts are allowed to look at those documents. >> okay. i wonder too, ron, how much longer the white house feels it can put up these kinds of barriers, produce these kinds of arguments and how it will serve the white house's best interest. >> well, i think they feel like they can -- i think on every front, we are going to see congressional oversight resisted to an extent we have not previously experienced. and that on many fronts, these issues are going to the courts
and likely more often than not, going to the supreme court. one of the reasons why they feel so effectively they can stonewall and run out the clock on 2020 is because the republican senate is not joining in trying to uphold congressional prerogative of oversite. we're going to have a series of fights between the democratic house and the administration. in which the administration is not producing the information. it's routine oversight of how the laws are executed and there are going to be a series of critical decisions that are likely to be 5-4 decisions decided by john roberts. that's going to be a big dynamic over the next 20 months. >> what do you believe is at the root of demanding the tax return s? what is it that members of congress want revealed? >> they have a right to know whether their president is working in the interests of the country or his own interests.
we don't know a number of core things we should know about a president. we don't know who he's been getting his money from. we don't know who he still owes money to and under what conditions they might be able to demand immediate repayment, and whether they're sort of tightening the screws as a result. we don't know if he's been profiting off the presidency, we have no idea how much income he was making before he became president or after he became president. we don't know if he's committing any sort of tax or financial fraud. this is not idle speculation. there's plenty of circumstantial evidence or otherwise to suggest there have been a lot of suspicious transactions here. just to give one example. trump has been paying for money losing golf courses, using hundreds of millions of dollars in cash. if you know anything about how real estate finance works, this
makes no sense. either he's the worst real estate investor in the history of the world or he might be doing something illegal. it looks a lot like money laundering. we don't know that it's money laundering, but it would make the public and the members of congress who are supposed to be conducting oversight feel a lot better if we had some insight into how those transactions work. >> tying this up in court only means months if not years, we're talking about 2020 election right around the corner, this kind of transparency, if that is indeed the goal will not be evident for voters. how influential potentially might this be? >> well, one of the things trump has used to dismiss any obligation of having to disclose, he said, well, i didn't disclose, and the voters elected me anyway. that could be true too. but the point of this exercise isn't -- is that to have as ron
said, the norm maintained. candidates now are disclosing their tax returns, you don't have to have -- >> kamala harris just supplied 15 years. bernie sanders -- >> you do not have to have in this request, a motivation of thinking that something is wrong, and that's what i think is important for people out there to know. over sight means that, we want to look, just to see. oversight doesn't mean always that there is a crime there. now, given the background of trump, the stories about his finagling, you have more meat, a bigger trail to follow. you are interested, what is the tax rate he used. what are the maneuvers he used, are they things that are in a gray area? it's routine stuff, and that is the reason that getting the tax returns is important, just to have a starting point. >> his people are arguing, voters didn't have that kind of
information, didn't seem to matter, they voted for him anyway. he's now in office, might that be the same argument or justification for the second go around? >> well, i think there are two issues there, the law itself doesn't care about how interested voters are, the law is very explicit that democrats are relying on, it's worth noting it's passed by a republican controlled congress to answer precisely the kinds of questions that katherine raised about senior officials. the law is the law. now, on the other question of whether the norm breaking hurts or helps trump, the fact is, he's looking at an approval rating in the low 40s. and there's no question that there is a group of voters who are doing very well in the economy. particularly, suburban white collar voters who find all of the norm breaking about trump exhausting and repelling. whether it's the way he talks about race, women, the constant confrontations with the rule of law, with other -- every other institution in society, there is
a price. he mobilizes his base, he is running more poorly among voters. and this has to be the principle reason why. >> the law you keep referring to, giving neil the authority to compel the records amended. the internal revenue code. it says the treasury secretary shall furnish any return or return information specified from the head of the house and senate tax writing communities. well, we heard from the treasury secretary earlier in the week too. and he is sending a strong message that it's never going to happen. thanks for now. ron, katherine, lynn. appreciate it. >> thank you, fred. a new candidate in the race for 2020 could rising star pete buttigieg shake things up and give president trump a challenge? we'll discuss next. i really didn't expect to learn so many interesting details. ancestrydna was able to tell me
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he's now the youngest democrat in the race for the presidency. pete buttigieg made the announcement a short time ago, in the speech he sounded a lot like another once democratic upstart. watch? >> i recognize the awe dudacity doing this as a midwestern millennial mayor. more than a little bold at age.
to seek the highest office in the land. >> i recognize that there is a certain presumptuousness in this, a certain audacity to this announcement. i know i haven't spent a lot of time learning the ways of washington. but i've been there long enough to know that the ways of washington must change. >> cnn's vanessa yurkavic was at that rally. people took notice of buttigieg's word choice and that of candidate barack obama. what more is being said about that? >> we heard from a lot of the people who interest deuced pete buttigieg. he made direct comparisons between buttigieg and president obama. whether people in the crowd noticed the comparison in language, there was a lot of that between his speech here today and some of the things we
heard president obama say in the past. we heard buttigieg on the trail talking about him being a gay man, a millennial, an episcopalian. we heard him talk a lot about his sexuality in other ways. he talked about his marriage to chasten. he holds that as his most important freedom in life. >> take it from chasten and me, you're not free if a county clerk gets to tell you who you're allowed to marry because of their idea of political beliefs. >> the chance to live a life of your choosing, in keeping with your values, that is freedom in its richest sense.
>> pete buttigieg has been asked over and over whether or not america is ready for a gay man to be in office as president. he's never really answered the question directly, what he says is that -- let the american people decide whether or not they're ready for it. we know it's a big part of his life. chasten will be with him on the campaign trail. and as we look forward to the next couple months, question know that he will continue to make that part of his campaign and as we look forward to debates coming up in june and july, i'm sure he'll get some questions about that. people are definitely curious about that. >> vanessa, thank you very much. we'll be right back. ♪ pardon the interruption but this is big! now at t-mobile buy any samsung galaxy s10 and get a galaxy s10e free!
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the u.s. has the absolute legal right to transfer migrants from border cities. sarah sanders said that isn't the president's first choice and trying to lay blame for the issue at the feet of democrats. >> if democrats would step up and help the president fix the laws, this all could go away, we wouldn't be having the discussion, and that would be the best thing for the country. and that would be the best way to solve this crisis and fix this problem. if democrats continue to be unwilling to do that, then we're going to look at all of our options and we don't want to put all of the burden on one or two border communities. democrats have stated time and time again they support open borders if they want to see that happen, they're refusing to fix the problem. >> joining me now luis gutierrez. your thoughts on this spreading
out the burden. those are the words of sarah sanders. >> it's the president obviously playing politics with this humanitarian crisis we have on our boarder. let's see, fixing the laws in the united states. well, the two principle reasons we have so many people seeking asylum and fleeing el salvador and guatemala are violence and poverty. if you want to address it, you have to address the rampant violence and poverty thats in those countries. number one, number two, we do have asylum laws, it's illegal to stop someone from applying from asylum. while the president is playing games obviously, to tell his supporters, don't worry, i won't move them anywhere near you. i'll move them near those darn democrats in the big cities. i thought of my mom and my mom
and her sisters, they all went to new york, right? that's where they went, along with the rest of their family. and like my dad, he had 11 brothers and sisters and they all came between gary indiana and chicago. that's what people seekers are going to go where they have family members and we have communities that are ready to warmly accept them and where in are job opportunities. look, mr. president, you don't have to do anything, just follow the laws of the united states of america and when they apply for asylum, follow the judicial system, and if they're granted asylum, they will find their appropriate place within our society. >> if everyone is understanding the president's idea. i mean, his admission to the idea, once he tweeted it out and even spoke to cameras, the white house, he said otherwise, he's saying just relocate them to asylum -- to sanctuary cities
that he believes would be welcoming them with open arms. do you believe he was bluffing, is this just the president and bluster? or do you believe that he really is looking for an avenue to make that happen. >> no. i think what he's saying is, don't worry, folks who voted for me in rural america and other parts of america where my anti-immigrant rhetoric and fervor is what attracted you to me and my presidency, i'm going to send them to democrats. it's a game, you have a humanitarian crisis, you have people walking 2,000 miles through dangerous conditions, fleeing two things, right? >> what does that say to you -- >> let's address that. >> the president is really using this as retribution to get back at his political enemies or his
opponents? >> how sad, a president apparently has never read the inscription on the statue of liberty and has no to radicall immigration system. that's why they want to stop asylum seekers, they want to end any type of asylum in the united states of america. they want to change the rest of our immigration system, right? >> they say, well, you know, we don't want you being able to invite your brothers and sisters, husbands and wives and children to the united states unless, of course, you're donald trump's wife who got american citizenship for her parents. that's the natural way of doing things, right? you come, you establish yourself as an immigrant and then you bring your wife, your children, and then you bring your family, because family is at the core of what really sustains and cements our society. so it has worked beautifully for
200 years, but what they want to do is end immigration as we know it, and this is part of that process, it's part of the anti-immigrant rhetoric of this president. but again, just think naturally, where would people go, they are going to go to communities where they are going to be welcomed, so it will naturally happen. what the president is saying is simply tryinging to gain. here's another interesting thing, it always seems fascinating to me, that where immigrants are known. where they're your neighbors, you receive them warmly, it is always in the regions of america, that are most anti-immigrants where there are very few or no immigrants. with they don't pose a threat of becoming your neighbor. where they do, the warmth and the acceptance and how would i say, the bien -- the welcoming of immigrants are always there. they're going to come as my
parents did, as italian immigrants, polish immigrants, they're going to go to places where their family are. mr. president, i understand you want to take a humanitarian crisis and exploit it for political gain. >> we'll leave it there for now. thank you so much. so much more straight ahead in the newsroom right after this. discover elvive protein recharge leave-in conditioner. our heat protecting formula, leaves hair 15-times stronger. ♪ in just 1 use elvive revives damaged hair.
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